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Volkswagen Jetta 1.4 TSI (DSG) 2009
Reviewed on 9 Jun 2010 6:07PM
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Car reviews written (
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Happy 1st Birthday!
Duration of car driven:
1 year
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Yeah that's like getting the car as a long termer. It'd definitely be informative to know how the car performs as it goes about with daily chores. Hahas, I suppose it's a good thing if you run out of things to write about. That means your Jet is in good health and serving you well. =) asdzds
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Thanks, edlaz! I hope to write a review on every anniversary of my Jetta as I thought it would give a more complete picture about the quality of the car and be useful to other car users. That's my ideal of a user's review of long term usage of a car, while new car reviews are best left to the experts. Of course potential problem is I may run out of things to write :-D asdzds
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Happy 1st birthday to your Jetta! And thanks for the detailed review. I realised you've been logging reviews on your car for the past year. It's impressive and touching to see someone so passionate about his car. Here's to you and your Jet! Cheers! asdzds
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Volkswagen Jetta 1.4 TSI (DSG) 2009
Reviewed on 2 Sep 2009 2:31PM
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Car reviews written (
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Road Trip (sequel to review 1)
Fuel consumption:
11.4 km/litre
Drive pattern:
90% highway
Duration of car driven:
3 months
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Eber, thanks for the clarification asdzds
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The subject is a tricky one. DSG to my knowledge attempts to predict the next gear shift based on some parameters like acceleration speed. If the prediction is "wrong", there is a delay penalty, but not half bad. If the prediction is "right" then the gear shift is really fast (faster than a manual shifting action). I don't have the specs on hand, but there should be ample documentation out there on the web. asdzds
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Eber, am i right to say that for DSG. when we use in Semi-Manual mode, the Down gear will have teh same respond as a manual transmission? cause i always have the thought that in up gear, GSG is good. but when things come to down gear, it might not be as great. asdzds
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Hi Swordsman, glad to read that you are very happy with your car! About the stomping - change gear kick down delay, seems to be a habit most of auto cars and the VW Tiguan I drove recently exhibit a little of that as well. But all is great when you switch to the "semi" manual gear shift mode or switching it S-mode and keeping it at 3-4k rpm *before* overtaking. Oneshift.com is going to have a Drive Away event up to Malaysia soon, keep your eyes peeled :) Thanks for sharing a very useful, honest review. asdzds
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Volkswagen Jetta 1.4 TSI (DSG) 2009
Reviewed on 20 Jul 2009 12:29AM
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Car reviews written (
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Anybody noticed Golf's brother?
Similar cars tried:
Renault Megane 1.6, Honda Civic 1.8, Toyota Prius
Fuel consumption:
10.5 km/litre
Drive pattern:
90% urban
Duration of car driven:
3 months
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Thanks Sword. Will switch over to that forum. asdzds
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Prices of Jetta and Civic are on par now, and to Toyota it's somewhere between Altis and Camry. So Jetta certainly makes a good competition, but IMO still some way to go against the 2 establishments with abundance of alternative services, availability of spares and opportunities for mod.
Btw I opened a thread in forum for Jetta discussion as somehow I can only see 5 latest responses from our previous exchanges, dunno why. Link is shown below:
http://www.oneshift.com/forum/topic_details.php?fid=18&tid=8469&tpageid=1&cb=list_topics.php%3Ffid%3D18%26page_id%3D1&keyword= asdzds
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I think it is also due to the inflated couse of Honda and Toyota. with their selling cost at such a high price. most ppl will go for Conti. asdzds
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Hi Joseph,
the FC reading hover around 8 and 7.9. Have been driving more normally instead of the girly driving style.
Considering that I am mostly on the highway, I think this is as good as it gets..
The Oil level not giving any problem yet. But keeping my finger crossed..
All there is an influx of Jetta... All the sudden.. quite a few on the road... must be becos of the launch back in April..
asdzds
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So how? any latest update? asdzds
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Okay, Glad to know that it can take "normal" Engine Oil.
Anyway heard that the new Octavia is coming out this friday. If the price is good (after the inflated price of new release), then might be another good car to consider. asdzds
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Hi Joseph,
my FC is down to 7.7 lit / 100km (based on computer reading). Its abt 12.9 km /litres based on my own fuel and distance monitoring. Just hit abt 2000km. Not too bad considering its weight.
The sales gal mentioned that the oil evaporate faster for Turbo charged engine. Thats the reason for the monitoring. I guess it applies to most contiental cars with their servicing at 15000. My old man drives an Audi. He is always topping up the oil. (he bought the cheapest kind from the petrol station). So far the car still ok lah.. =)I might do likewise.. keke asdzds
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Is it true that all turbo engine will drain out engine oil? sorry i did not drove a turbo car before. but i had not heard of this from friends about this. can anyone confirm?? cause i understand that the engine oil VW using is not the same type a normal type of engine oil.
also Swordsman and terceltan how is the FC now? asdzds
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Ya.. you are probably rite.. right now the figure is down to 7.9lit / 100km. So there is a down trend..
Keke.. just reached my 1000 km.. time to let it fly abit faster.
So far, I have been quite impressed with the handling. Power wise is not too bad.
Oh.. with regard the servicing, its 15000, but make sure you check your engine regularly at 5000km. Turbo charge car tend to have their oil evaporating faster. asdzds
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terceltan, I heard from frens that stated FC in car spec are tested with conditions like no aircon, not fully loaded, and probably running along a traffic-free road. So let's just not worry too much about hitting the said figures :-). Your car is still fresh, maybe like what joseph22 said, wait until edges in moving parts are smoothen...
Isn't your car on a 15000km or 1 yr service interval? I was not told to do first servicing any sooner, so I'm happily driving until 1st yr is up. I roughly remember a chart that shows cost is around 200+ ~ 400+ depending on major/minor service. For me as a low-mileage user, annual cost about same as Jap cars which are advised to do service every 10000km or 6 mths. asdzds
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The figure seems to just hover around 8.1 lit / 100km... Considering all the highway driving... agree with Sword that we can never achieve the stated rating... =(
Sword, you taken your car for your first few servicing? Expensive?
asdzds
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Anyway, the figure is almost the same as my Mit Lance GLX when i first got it. But the FC improve to current 7.2Ltr/100km after 2 1/2 years and travel 80K. Hope that it will improve as the time go by. Afterall, TSI Engine suppose to be built for Fuel Friendly. asdzds
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I only hit that fig once when I travelled on AYE-ECP starting from clementi and exit at fort rd. Most of the journey was just cruising at 70~90km/h. Kind of matched with terceltan's drive.
I've almost come to terms with (a.k.a. resigned to) my average 9.5L/100km FC with my 90% city driving, dun think will ever go down :-|
Btw, another discovery: during idling FC with aircon on is about 0.7~0.9 l/h, w/o aircon it drops to 0.5 l/h... just fyi asdzds
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Ok, Look like the FC is not exactly great. do keep us posted. asdzds
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As it stands,
Reading is down to 8.2 Litres / 100 km
Very Gentle Driving. Approx. 80% highway and 20% city asdzds
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What is the driving pattern like? asdzds
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Travelled abt 300km... Based on the Car Reading, its 8.5 Litres / 100 km.
asdzds
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Yep, HSBC insurance, note: with 50% NCD, otherwise $ would have been higher. Hope the rate stays in the future... asdzds
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Less than 800??? No kidding! Are you taking the HSBC insurance?
hey guys... I gotten my car!!!! Will post some figures soon...
So far so good... plenty of nice features... asdzds
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Wow, indeed i am surprise but i am also very happy to heard that... asdzds
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Yeah, you're right, lower rd tax but power no less :-D
Bet you'd be surprised, my insurance is <800 (with 50% NCD), pretty reasonable as premiums have been skyrocketing :-( asdzds
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At Least you will know that you will pay a cheaper road tax when its time for renewal. since its a 1.4. However, i think that saving will go into the insurance since that its a Turbo charged... haha.
But dont worry, you will know that you are safe in VW since its a conti make aka harder body. Plus i think this model have Nacap 5 Star at 97% as compare to most Japan brand that at most achieve 80+%. hence its safer. asdzds
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I will provide the FC figure. I drive alot on the freeway (at least 80-85%) and if my FC feedback (after I get the car) is high.. haha.. thats it man.. Hoping to achieve at least 13 km per litre.. But from Sword review.. I am having serious doubt we can get anything close..
Was actually considering the 1.8 Civic (similar price) before I decide on the Jetta. Think her FC is slightly better. My brother in law drives a 1.6 latest Civic. Goodness.. the engine is super silent... asdzds
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:-D We are FC-conscious folks! I'm hoping for better fig as the km builds up. So far I've been running city roads, I think that largely contributed to the higher FC.
No yet a chance to rev even to 3K rpm to feel the "shiok-ness". I think the bassy grunt I heard @2K rpm is probably a partially opened divert air-valve. Fully opened valve maybe @ >3K rpm (guess only). In the case of twin-charged engine, supercharger will close @ around 3700 rpm for turbo to take over completely, according to VW info. asdzds
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Could the high FC of most reported due to the fact that it had turbo??
cause i think most ppl who get a Tubor in the car, will tend to be tempted to Rev it high to feel the turbo shoick... hopefully it is not the case though... waiting for your feedback on the the car soon asdzds
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Hi sword,
I just settled my payment today and will be getting the car on Wed after a 3 mths wait.
The TSI (170hp) I tested was the previous model. (It was before the launch of this new TSI (both 122 and 160). It might be the 160 one that I drove. As I was totally not getting a car that cost more than 70k then, I didnt really pay attention to the car details except to get a feel of its handling.
However, the pick up rate is really good. I floor it during the test drive once we are out of the centre(to the horror of the sale rep.. haha)and the car overtook everyone with room to spare.
I eventually bought the 1.6 (A) as it was within my budget. But they launched the TSI 122 hp a couple of days later!! I (was oversea) called the sale rep to upgrade it immediately paying another 4k more for the 122 hp. I didnt even get the chance to even test drive it.. hahah..
I will post some feedback once I get the car though..
Can see from your review that the FC is not as good as they claimed. This is rather disappointing as this is one of the major reason why I got the TSI.
asdzds
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Hi terceltan, welcome to the club (or is there one?)!
We can exchange driving experience on this car.
I supposed you test drove the 122bhp car before you signed on the line?
Did you compare it with the 160bhp one? Since you have tested the 2007 car, wouldn't you feel the 122bhp one less powerful?
For my case, I didn't test both, just by looking at the tech spec. there is not much difference between the two, except 160bhp has supercharger in it, but other than higher power & torque, it didn't seem to push up other performance significantly (0-100km/h time, fuel efficiency, etc.). I don't understand why and didn't want to spent on unknowns, so settled for the 122bhp version :-D
If you are interested, here are some related reading materials:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/10705294254/new-vw-122-ps-tsi-engine-in-detail
http://www.autoevolution.com/testdrive/volkswagen-jetta-14-tsi-122-hp-2009-new-cars-collection.html
asdzds
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I tested drived the 1.4 TSI 2007 (with 170 bhp) before. Very powerful (compared to my Vios that is... ). Handling is quite good also. Wonder if this 1.4 TSI 2009 (122 bhp) is anything near it.
Anyway, bought the car. Most likely getting it next week. Will post some feedback on it shortly.. (keeping my finger crossed that it is a good buy!!)
Thanks Joseph and Swordsman for your review and reply. asdzds
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the 2009 Jetta 1.4 TSI 122bhp is only turbo Charge. sadly. i was thinking if super charged is better asdzds
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I don't know much about car.. but is the 2009 Jetta 1.4 TSI 122bhp supercharged? Is there any turbo in it at all?? Didnt find any material online to suggest that..
.. Clueless.. asdzds
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Swordsman, Thanks for the reply. I had actually tried Golf GT Sport awhile back and like it alot(given that its a small CC and good FC for the Power). But was thinking that i might not need such a powerful engine and i prefer Sedan. Hence was thinking of this model. Anyway, i am actually shopping in advance. 2 more year before i can change my Car but its a hugh investment/liability hence start looking around now.
asdzds
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Hi joseph22, VW will be glad to know you are interested ;-)
Not sure if yours is typo, but I meant 90% city driving, 10% highway. So if you are mostly on highway (and provided not always caught in jams), you should be able to get better figures than 10km/L.
As for turbo set-in point, frankly I'm not 100% sure. Normal driving at "D", the car typically up every gear at about 2K rpm all the way until gear 7. Roughly between 1.7K & 2K rpm (I also seldom drive above 2K rpm), the grunt is audible and good torque can be felt. I don't want to pretend that I know enough, just thought that at those rpm the turbocharger is already at work.
Maybe any expert out there can advise? Thks
Btw, if you are willing to part with another $5K, the Sport version comes with the "real" TSI (twin-charged, 160bhp/240Nm), touchscreen audio unit, 2 more speakers (mine already have 8!), and better-looking rims. Hey! I don't work for VW, just for clarification :-). So, enjoy your search! asdzds
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Thanks swordsman for the review. am glade to know that the FC for 90% highway is around 10Km/Ltr. I notice you mention about the turbo Lag. Mind to review at what RPM does the turbo set in?? I was wondering if high Rev is needed for the turbo to set in as i'm interested in this model too. if high rev is needed, then this car is not for me. (my normal driving is about 1.5K to 2K rpm. asdzds
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Great review! thanks :) asdzds
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Yep, 90% city driving (SGP is actually 100% urban :-D). Seldom go on highways these days, esp. avoid during peak hours. Anyway don't need to take highways on my way to/from work. asdzds
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When you mention 90% on urban. do you mean 90% on city drive? if so, i will say wow, in my memory i only heard of Jazz making that FC in 90% city drive. asdzds
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